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ESL Podcast English Café 126
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ENGLISH CAFÉ – 126
TOPICS
Famous Americans: Grandma Moses; GED Tests, since versus from, is to do
(something), calligraphy versus penmanship
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GLOSSARY
folk – related to something that is traditional and popular among ordinary people
from a certain area, especially in the country
* American folk music is often played on guitars, fiddles, and banjos.
rural – related to the country; not urban or suburban
* I grew up in a rural area where our closest neighbors were cows, not people.
sporadic – intermittent; happening occasionally or often, but not on a regular
schedule
* The professor is frustrated with his students’ sporadic attendance.
to pick apples – to go to a place where there are many apple trees and use a
ladder to collect the apples
* They always go to pick apples together as a family in the fall.
naive – not sophisticated; simple; without very much real-world experience
* Ola is very naive and always believes whatever people tell him.
primitive – not modern or sophisticated; related to an early way of life that no
longer exists in today’s society
* In primitive societies, women carry their babies on their back most of the day
and those babies rarely cry.
Moses – a biblical Jewish leader who led the Israelites out of Egypt when God
parted the Red Sea
* According to the Bible, God gave Moses the Ten Commandments, or laws, that
all people are supposed to follow.
postcard – a small, thick, rectangular piece of paper with a photograph on one
side and room to write a message and address on the other side, so that it can
be sent through the mail without an envelope
* Please send us a postcard from Fiji!
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equivalency – same; having the same value, importance, or purpose as
something else
* My language teacher told me that living in a foreign country for one year has
the equivalency of six years of studying a language in one’s own country.
dropout – a person who stops going to school before graduating, or who stops
participating in an activity before it is finished
* Most high school dropouts make very little money because they don’t have
enough education to get a good job.
home schooling – the practice through which parents teach their children at
home instead of sending them to a regular school
* Research studies show that home schooling does not prevent children from
developing social skills.
is to do (something) – is supposed to do something; is planned or scheduled to
do something
* The magician is to do a very exciting trick in the second half of tonight’s show.
calligraphy – beautiful writing that is made with special pens and inks
* They addressed the wedding invitations with beautiful calligraphy.
penmanship – handwriting; the way that a person writes; the way that a person
forms individual letters and words on paper
* Your penmanship is horrible! I can hardly read what you’ve written here.
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WHAT INSIDERS KNOW
Famous Americans with GEDs
Many high school dropouts “regret” (wish that one hadn’t done something, or feel
bad about something that one did earlier) their decision to stop studying before
they had earned their “high school diploma” (the piece of paper that one gets at
high school graduation). They find that, without a diploma, they are unable to get
good jobs. However, by the time they “make this realization” (have this
understanding), they are often too old to go back to high school.
Fortunately, these individuals can decide to take a test of “General Educational
Development,” or GED. The GED is also known as a “General Equivalency
Diploma” or “General Education(al) Diploma,” but these terms are technically
incorrect. Earning a GED means that the test-taker has high-school-level
academic skills. Passing the GED exam requires getting a “score” (the number
of points earned on a test) that is higher than that of 40% of graduating high
school seniors.
Some of the people who earn a GED are high-school dropouts; others were
home schooled. People who have earned a GED have the equivalent of a high
school diploma, and are able to use the GED to get a better job or “enroll” (begin
participating in a program) in college.
More than 15 million people have earned a GED, and many of them are famous.
American pop singer Britney Spears and her sister, Jamie Lynn Spears, have
GEDs. Jerry Garcia of the Grateful Dead and Tre Cool of Green Day are two
other famous musicians who have GEDs. Actors Bill Cosby, Christian Slater,
and Michael J. Fox have GEDs, as do Dave Thomas, the founder of Wendy’s
restaurant, and even Ruth Ann Minner, the Governor of Delaware!
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COMPLETE TRANSCRIPT
You’re listening to ESL Podcast’s English Café number 126.
This is ESL Podcast’s English Café episode 126. I’m your host, Dr. Jeff
McQuillan, coming to you from the Center for Educational Development in
beautiful Los Angeles, California.
Our website is eslpod.com. On it you can find a Learning Guide for this episode,
as well as our ESL Podcast Store, which contains premium courses on business
and personal English we think you’ll be interested in.
On this Café, we’re going to talk about a famous American of the 20 th century,
Grandma Moses – who she was, and why she is famous. We’re also going to
talk about the GED – what that is, who gets it, and why. And as always, we’ll
answer a few of your questions. Let’s get started.
Our first topic today is Grandma Moses. Grandma Moses was the name of a
famous American painter of the 20 th century. Her real name was Anna
Robertson. She was born in September of 1860; she died 101 years later, in
1961. She’s known as Grandma Moses because she started painting when she
was in her 70s. She is usually “cited,” that is, she is usually produced as
evidence of how it is possible to start at something at a late age – at an older
age, and still be good at that thing.
Grandma Moses was famous for her pictures of rural life in the United States.
When I say “rural” (rural), I’m talking about outside the city, in the country where
there are farms and fewer people. Grandma Moses was sometimes called a
“folk artist.” “Folk” (folk) often refers to popular, perhaps not as sophisticated
kind of art, although that doesn’t necessarily mean that it isn’t very sophisticated.
It’s a phrase – an expression we use to talk about traditional, often rural, art
forms. Certain kinds of folk music, for example, are created by and sung by non-
professional musicians, although there are now professional musicians that play
folk music.
Grandma Moses had what one writer described as “sporadic periods of
schooling” when she was young. “Sporadic” (sporadic) means not very frequent
– not on a regular basis. She may have gone to school one year, and then the
next year not. This was not uncommon, especially for those that lived in rural
areas of the United States in the late 19 th and early 20 th centuries.
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Grandma Moses, who, of course, was called at that time Anna Robertson,
married and lived in Virginia and then moved to New York. Her husband died in
1927. After her husband died, she moved to her daughter’s home in 1936, and it
was then, after she had “retired” – after she had left her normal work on the farm
– that she began to paint.
Initially, she copied what were called “illustrated postcards.” A “postcard” is
something you send someone that has a picture or a painting, usually of a place
that you are visiting. These illustrated postcards were her first subjects; she
would copy them. Eventually, however, beginning in the early 1940s, she started
painting scenes from her own childhood – when she was a child, pictures such
as “Apple Pickers.” People who “pick apples” are people who take the apples
and remove them from the tree. She also had a famous painting called
“Catching the Thanksgiving Turkey.” Thanksgiving, you may know, is a
celebration each year where it is very popular for people to eat turkeys; this was
a painting about someone on a farm catching the turkey for Thanksgiving.
These paintings by Grandma Moses gradually became more famous, and by the
early 1940s she had exhibits and shows in different parts of the country.
Throughout her time as a painter, she painted more than 2,000 paintings. Her
style is sometimes called a “naive” style. “Naive” (naive) usually means innocent,
but also, perhaps, uneducated, or not very intelligent, someone who doesn’t
understand everything very well. Later, art historians called it “American
Primitive,” meaning it had a certain popular folk quality about it.
She became very famous in the late 1940s and 1950s. In the early 1950s, she
appeared on one of the most famous television programs of that time, called See
It Now , by a journalist named Edward R. Murrow, who’s considered one of the
finest journalists of the 20 th century on television.
Grandma Moses died in 1961. As I mentioned earlier, most Americans, when
they think of Grandma Moses, think of the possibility of starting something later in
life, and being able to do well at it. I personally find this encouraging, since there
are many things that I would love to learn how to do, including painting. Right
now, I’m working on the violin, which I’m not very good at. Fortunately, my wife
has a good set of earplugs to put in her ears so she doesn’t hear me! Maybe I’ll
be like Grandma Moses someday.
You may wonder why they called her “Grandma Moses.” I think part of the
reason is that Moses lived a very long time. Moses is a character – a person
from the history of the Jewish people, who was “instrumental,” that is, he was
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