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Nick:

Hi everybody, welcome back. This is the second video in the Tapping World

Summit warm-up prelaunch series, getting ready for the main Tapping World

Summit coming up on February 4 th . I’m so delighted to be here up in

Massachusetts at the home of somebody that I’ve followed and admired for so

many years, my dear friend Dr. Mark Hyman.

You’ve probably heard of Mark. You might have seen him on 60 Minutes , the Dr.

Oz Show , Larry King , the list is a mile long. You might have also read some of his

books. We’ve got the Blood Sugar Solution here, his latest book which was the

fourth New York Times bestseller he’s written. Congratulations on that.

Mark:

Fifth.

Nick:

Okay. You’ve got to update your bio.

Mark:

I know.

Nick:

So Blood Sugar Solution , the fifth one. He’s testified in front of Congress out

there in the world, doing great things spreading this message of health. What I

love about Mark is that not only is he a friend, he’s my personal doctor, he’s just

the doctor with the biggest heart that I’ve ever seen. I think that translates into his

work. I’m so excited to be here with you today. Thanks, Mark.

Mark:

Thanks.

Nick:

Before we started rolling we were talking about the time that you spent in India

just recently. You just got back.

Mark:

I just got back, yeah.

Nick:

It brought me to think about this idea of East versus West. We have Western

medicine, which is doctors, doctors, surgery, pills. Then we have the East which

is other forms, acupuncture, energy, just a different approach, herbs.

It often feels like there’s such a separation between the two and that one is right

and the other one is wrong, from each side’s perspective. One of the things that I

love about you is that I think you’re sort of bridging that gap. Tell me a little bit

about functional medicine, which is what you practice, and how that’s different

from what people are used to hearing from doctors.

Mark:

You bring up a really interesting point about Eastern/Western medicine. As a

matter of fact, the reason I ended up getting into functional medicine was because

I was predisposed to thinking about the body as a system from my study of

Chinese and Chinese medicine when I was in college.

Nick:

So you did that first.

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Mark:

I did that first. I went to China. I lived in China for a year and I studied a way of

thinking that was quite different, that understood the connections and the patterns

and the dynamic way in which the body works.

When I went to medical school it was very reductionist, it was very focused on

symptoms and diagnoses and treatments with medication and surgery. It didn’t

really create an integrated picture of how the body breaks down and how you can

create health.

I came upon functional medicine through getting sick myself. It was through

discovering the path to my own wellness through a horrible disease of chronic

fatigue that I discovered this model of thinking called functional medicine.

It’s not a different treatment or a modality or a test or a supplement. It’s a way of

thinking about how the body works. It’s ironic now that I’m going back to China

in two months to teach our training course in functional medicine to hundreds of

Chinese doctors.

Nick:

They’re going to be very receptive I’m sure.

Mark:

Yeah, they’re going to be very receptive. It’s also interesting, because they’ve

also gone to the Western model, realizing that doesn’t really work. It works for

infectious disease.

I came back from India. People have diarrhea and they have respiratory illnesses

and they have infections. Those things need Western treatment and they need

basic simple hygiene. I said to them the real treatment isn’t doctors. The real

treatment is hygiene, flush toilets and hot water and taking a shower.

That was the biggest medical treatment I did there was teach the kids at the

orphanage to take a shower twice a week and wash their hands before they ate and

not cough on each other, do not sleep together and giving them blankets so they

wouldn’t all be sleeping together and passing their fungus back and forth.

Nick:

Got it.

Mark:

So very simple ideas. For me the seed was there, my understanding of Eastern

thinking. When I got sick I realized that what I’ve learned in medical school

wasn’t really helpful in having me solve this puzzle of chronic illness.

I went to doctor after doctor, I got pill after pill and everything broke down. My

system didn’t work. I couldn’t think. I couldn’t focus. I couldn’t remember. I

couldn’t sleep. My digestion didn’t work. I had terrible chronic diarrhea. I had

muscle and joint pain. I had terrible rashes. I had sores on my tongue.

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I had just horrible symptoms. My liver function test read normal. My

inflammatory markers were elevated. My blood count was depressed. I had all

sorts of weird, strange things that no one could kind of figure out.

Nick:

Yeah, the mystery disease kind of thing that we see a lot.

Mark:

Yeah, the mystery illness. What it forced me to do was to understand everything

about how the body breaks down and how it works. In that process I discovered

some amazing thinkers like Dr. Jeffrey Bland and Linus Pauling, Sidney Baker,

some of my teachers and mentors who were mapping out a different way of

connecting the dots.

What they had done was fascinating. They had taken all of the existing research

about the way things work in the body, and they reorganized it into a different sort

of structure of thinking about how the body works and how it breaks down. They

basically connected the dots.

You’ve got all these researchers and all these people themselves and nobody talks

to each other. They took a 30,000 foot view and they said, “How does everything

really work?” So functional medicine is a way of thinking about how everything’s

connected. It’s a roadmap. It’s a way of navigating through the puzzle of chronic

disease.

We have so much of it here. We have not only obesity-related diseases like

diabetes, what I call diabesity, heart disease, dementia, stroke, cancer, high blood

pressure. But we have all these other diseases that are also related to lifestyle and

environment like autoimmune diseases, allergic diseases, digestion disorders that

affect millions and millions of people.

The combination of our poor diet, our industrial process diet, lack of exercise and

chronic stress, all three of those things are the trifecta that lead to chronic disease.

You add on top of all that environmental toxins and you’ve got a real witch’s

brew for causing chronic disease.

Nick:

I want to go back to the idea, because I think people lose track of infectious

diseases. As you mentioned, this is where Western medicine comes in amazingly.

Then these chronic diseases. People go drugs or bad or drugs are good. This is

bad or that’s good. How do people make the distinction of do they need to see a

doctor for what they’re faced with, do they need to see a functional medicine

doctor?

Mark:

I think in the future every doctor is going to be a functional medicine doctor

because it’s the science of systems biology and systems medicine, which is what

everything that’s going on in science right now. It takes about 10 to 20 years for

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what we know in science to be actually coming into practice. We’re missing out

on a lot of that right now. But in 20 years everybody will be thinking this way and

doing this kind of medicine.

It’s applicable to any problem because it’s simply asking a question, what’s the

cause? What is the cause? What is the root? If the cause is an infection you need

an antibiotic. I have a patient with chronic fatigue today that had a chronic virus

with HHV-6. She needed a special antiviral medication.

I also do things to help boost her immune system. I work on multiple levels at the

same time, getting rid of the thing that’s causing a problem, whether it’s a toxin,

an allergen, an infection, a stress or poor diet and putting in the things that body

needs to thrive which is real food and the right nutrients and management of stress

and sleep and rhythm, exercise, connection, love. All these are the really raw

materials, the ingredients, for creating health.

Nick:

You mentioned chronic stress, which I think – it’s my opinion this is where

tapping comes in. We’ll talk about that in a second. But it’s my opinion that

chronic stress is one of the things that people acknowledge very quickly, like

doctors will say, “Oh yeah, stress affects the body.”

Mark:

But here, take this drug.

Nick:

But here, take this drug. It’s just pushed to the side. I don’t think that most people,

because I found that in myself, really recognize the toll that chronic stress –

there’s a difference between the acute stress of something happens in your life,

fight or flight, you get to respond, and the chronic stress of every single day

waking up in the morning with your heart racing or anxiety and going to sleep

upset and dealing with all these things. Talk to me about chronic stress in the

body.

Mark:

It’s an enormous problem because we’re now more than every inundated with

things that stress our nervous system. We don’t realize from a biological point of

view that we’re in the 21 st century, that we’re safe, that we’re not threatened by

tigers and lions. I was in Bhutan trekking and there were –

Nick:

There were tigers and lions there. There it’s okay to be a little stressed.

Mark:

When I went at night to go to the bathroom I was a little worried. It’s something

where we’re not intellectually able to distinguish. Our body perceives these

insults, whether it’s your texting message buzzing every three minutes or emails

coming in or your phone going off or the 40 things you have to do on your to-do

list. Those things your body doesn’t distinguish as non-life-threatening stresses,

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so the same response your body has, and that creates huge wear and tear on the

body.

There’s a great book by a friend and colleague of mine, Dr. Robert Sapolsky,

called Why Zebras Don’t Get Ulcers . Why zebras don’t get ulcers is because

they’re eating the grass, the lion comes and chases them all, they run like crazy,

get enormously stressed. The lion catches one of them, they’re eating it and then

the rest of them go back to the grass and they stop worrying because nobody’s

going to eat them.

We just keep stressed all the time, and we don’t have a way of managing it and

processing it and we don’t have the rituals and the customers in our culture that

allow us to do that properly. We don’t have the friends and relationships and

connections and friendships and social support that help us do those things, and so

a lot of us are chronically stressed without that outlet and we don’t have a way of

de-stressing.

A lot of what I do In my practice is teach people about the methods and tools to

de-stress, whether it’s breathing or meditation, or tapping, which I refer many

patients to you. I find what is the right appropriate thing for them to help them

unhook from the chronic stress.

Nick:

You mentioned in your list of things that contribute you said chronic stress, and

also you said love and meaning in there. That’s not something that you hear from

many doctors. What does that have to do with our health?

Mark:

The biology of love is fantastic. Anybody who’s fallen in love knows that most of

their physical problems go away as soon as they fall in love. They sleep better,

they’re happier, their weight loss happens. It’s pretty amazing what happens.

When we have that connection it’s like food for our biology.

There’s been amazing studies on monkeys where they’ve taken monkeys and had

them have exactly the same diet and environment except for one thing, one had a

connection with their mother and the other they took away from their mother.

The ones that had no physical connection with other monkeys or their mother

looked old and wizened and sick and withered, and got much more ill more

quickly than the other monkeys even though they had exactly the same diet and

lifestyle. So just that ingredient is really critical.

Nick:

We’ve talked about childhood trauma off-camera, and how that contributes to

disease. I think in one of our first initial conversations, it was like, okay, what can

we do to use tapping on childhood trauma and how that contributes. That’s what

that study has shown.

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