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BOB ZEIGLER
Firewall Guru
When we’re
looking at security
it would be remiss
not to mention
Bob Zeigler and
the impact he’s
had on the field of
Linux firewalls.
Richard Ibbotson
caught up with
him in the US
personality, humanity and depth of character
are hidden to the casual observer. To get the
best out of him you have to get to know him
reasonably well or at the very least you have to
talk to him for a few days. His understanding
of the human condition is probably quite
unique. Without him the world would have
been a much sadder place. I talked to him
at his home in Cambridge, Massachusetts
and at Ryles jazz club at Hampshire street,
a place that was once inhabited by the
world’s most amazing academics. The
club and the musicians are still there but
the people are very different.
We live in times when the sharing of
knowledge is officially frowned upon. Bob
was originally from the state of Wisconsin,
which is known for its beautiful scenery and
laidback attitude to most things. He lived at
Madison with his parents before going to
college at the University of Wisconsin-Madison
to take an undergraduate degree in psychology in
the 1970s. He says that there is a very large cross
over in psychology and computing at the college that
he went to. After that he went back for a degree in
counselling. His interest in computers began to take
shape when he got his first machine from Radio
Shack (in more recent times known as Tandy). He says
that he didn’t know what assembly language was, so
he began to take an interest in it and also in BASIC.
He taught himself a lot about it and really liked it. His
hobby really began to get a grip on him.
Bob’s line of study made him think that he was
going to be a corrections professional for the rest of
his life – possibly a person who looks after serious
criminals. He said he liked the prisoners and didn’t
like the guards. He found himself working for the
State of Wisconsin and most of the time he
performed a role as a statistician. Testing of prisoners
was computerised – something that needed a large
budget. His colleagues at that time told him that he
“had to do a Masters degree in computing science”.
He objected and said that he couldn’t do the maths
but they finally got him there. He found himself
working with highly academic people and discovered
COBOL whilst still studying. If it hadn’t been for this
strange mix of circumstances Bob would never have
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become involved in Unix and his interest in
GNU/Linux and network security would not have
become what they are today.
Author
Richard Ibbotson is the
Chairman and organiser
for Sheffield Linux User’s
Group. You can view its
Web site at http://www.
sheflug.co.uk .
The lure of Unix
Bob has worked as a Unix operating systems
developer since his days of academia. He was
working with a team of people on a mini
supercomputer where he had to write just about
every line of code. He developed a multi-processor
version of BSD 4.3 as a spin-off from the original
uniprocessor project. Since then he has worked as a
Unix system kernel developer in the Boston area.
Then later on things began to fall off and he wasn’t
doing very much. Eight companies have died under
him in ten years whilst he was an employee.
Whilst he was working for Hewlett-Packard he
began to take an interest at home in firewalls and
network security. The people he was working with
told him that he should develop this further as his
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proper line of work. He began to develop his Linux
firewalls site. He was also working on Tiger and
Tripwire at the same time. It all came to a head when
a publisher approached him and asked him to write a
book about ipchains. The first edition of book about
Linux Firewalls was first published back in November
1999. In between the first and and second editions
he worked for Nokia as their principal engineer,
designing and developing firewall products for
Nokia’s Ipsilon family. At that time it was explained to
him that he should write his second book whilst at
his place of work.
His claim is that he thinks that his first book, which
gave a more than adequate description of ipchains,
was probably lacking in something somewhere.
When iptables came along he thought that it was
about time that he corrected any mistakes that he
might have made with his first book. He thought that
some help from someone else would probably be a
good thing. He asked Carl Constantine to be his
contributing author. Carl has worked in the IT
business for many years. He was been a technical
writer, a programmer and a consultant. He works at
the Department of Computer Science at the
University of Victoria at British Columbia in Canada.
The technical reviewers are Joshua Jensen, who was
the first Red Hat instructor and examiner, and John
Millican, who has been providing information
consulting services since 1978. John is currently
certified by SANS GIAC for intrusion detection in
depth and firewalls VPNs and perimeter protection
and related security issues. He is the chairman of the
SANS Unix security certification board. With this
impressive line of highly qualified and experienced
people Bob set to and wrote his second book.
more advanced concepts.
Bob describes his local area in Massachusetts as
“greed central”. To the casual observer it is a
beautiful part of America to go to. Boston, which is
on the other side of the river, has some great
attractions. Cambridge itself is home to both the
Massachusetts Institute of Technology and Harvard.
On the day that I was there the Patriots parade took
place and the New England Patriots soccer team won
for the first time in years. MIT was its usual busy self,
bustling with activity and expectation of the new
semester. It was good to be the most popular
Englishman in America for just a few hours.
To finish off I might mention the dedication which
never got published in the second edition but it was
published in the errata... “In constant memory of
Jake”. Jake used to be Bob’s pet cat. He loved Jake as
much as he loved his wife. Jonas is now his friend
and life companion. Long live Jonas.
We hope you will be with us next month when
Bob Zeigler starts his Linux firewalls tutorial series.
which gave
a more than
adequate
description
of ipchains
A second coming
Linux Firewalls second edition was published in
November 2001. It’s all about iptables and is
extremely comprehensive owing to the nature of the
people who helped to write it. It was pressure from
this book and some of the people mentioned above
that brought an update in the iptables application
with a view to fixing a few bugs. It covers, in 13
chapters and four appendices, the kind of things that
most small SOHO LANs might need. What it doesn’t
cover the security policies and procedures that large
businesses need. However, if you are someone who is
involved in administering a large business or
Government network then you might just find that
this is a good book to read for some introductory
ideas.
There is also a Web site that Bob has put together
for reference and for creating firewall rules for your
network. You might want to have a look at that. The
reader is given some basic concepts about network
security such as packet-filtering firewalls and then he
or she is carefully taken through some simple and
Info
Buy a Linux Firewalls book: http://www.newriders.
com/books/title.cfm?isbn=0735710996
Bob’s site: http://www.linux-firewall-tools.com
University of Wisconsin-Madison:
http://www.wisc.edu
Errata: http://www.linux-firewall-
tools.com/linux/book/errata.html#top
Design your own GNU/Linux firewall: http://www.
linux-firewall-tools.com/linux/firewall/index.html
Jazz: http://www.rylesjazz.com/index.shtml
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