The Juggler Method Conversational Jujitsu
Seduction Manual - 3 - Compiled By The Guru
1 Juggler’s Method.................................................. 3
1.1 Juggler’s 90 – 10 Rule........................................ 4
1.2 Structure..................................................... 5
1.3 SOI, State Change & Extraction................................ 6
1.4 Using SOI..................................................... 8
1.5 Before Extraction............................................. 9
1.6 Being High Maintenance....................................... 10
1.7 Eliciting values vs. 'I am the prize'........................ 11
1.8 Street Approaches............................................ 13
1.9 Seducer ON/OFF............................................... 13
2 Routines......................................................... 14
2.1 Movie Rating................................................. 14
2.2 Girlfriend Test.............................................. 15
3 Groups........................................................... 17
3.1 Group Theory................................................. 17
3.2 Pulling 1 Girl away from a Group of Girls.................... 19
3.3 Disarming Male Obstacles..................................... 20
3.4 Handling Situations.......................................... 20
3.5 Mixed Groups................................................. 20
3.6 Locking in your Target....................................... 21
3.7 Understand the group approach................................ 22
3.8 Entertaining a group......................................... 23
3.9 Miscellaneous Points......................................... 24
4 Conversational Jujitsu........................................... 24
4.1 Story Telling................................................ 24
4.1.1 Purpose of Story......................................... 26
4.1.2 Sample Edit.............................................. 26
4.2 Questions vs. Statements..................................... 27
4.3 Become a Better Talker....................................... 30
4.4 What to Say vs. How to Say................................... 31
4.4.1 Keeping a straight face.................................. 32
4.5 The dreaded ‘I don’t know’................................... 32
4.6 Rapport...................................................... 33
4.6.1 Rapport Building......................................... 34
4.7 Always Trade................................................. 35
4.8 Turning the Tables........................................... 36
4.9 Communicating that you are Qualifying them................... 38
4.10 Put a price on yourself.................................... 39
4.11 Hooks and Pauses........................................... 40
4.12 About Ejecting............................................. 42
4.13 Forcing IOIs............................................... 42
4.14 Don’t Fluff................................................ 43
4.15 Comebacks.................................................. 43
4.16 Silencing strong opinions/beliefs/feelings etc............. 44
4.17 On Transitioning between topics............................ 45
4.18 Do not ask open ended questions............................ 45
4.19 Handling Compliments....................................... 46
4.20 The Last Words on Compliments.............................. 47
4.21 Conversation Examples...................................... 48
4.21.1 Study Group............................................ 48
4.21.2 Take time and talk about yourself...................... 48
4.21.3 Compliment Openers..................................... 49
4.21.4 How are you 1.......................................... 49
4.21.5 How are you 2.......................................... 49
4.21.6 How are you 3.......................................... 50
4.21.7 Opinion Opener......................................... 50
Seduction Manual - 2 - Compiled By The Guru
4.21.8 Eliciting Values....................................... 50
5 Phone Guidelines................................................. 51
5.1 Phone Techniques............................................. 53
5.1.1 Forgotten Name........................................... 53
5.1.2 Phone Technique.......................................... 53
5.1.3 Cell phone interruptions, how to handle.................. 54
5.1.4 Caller ID Block.......................................... 54
5.1.5 Handling busy responses.................................. 54
5.1.6 Phone Sarging Advice..................................... 55
5.1.7 Do not mention the bad number............................ 56
5.1.8 Responses to Cancelled Dates............................. 56
6 Miscellaneous.................................................... 56
6.1 Cold Approach................................................ 56
6.2 Unemotional vs. Emotional Revisited.......................... 57
6.3 Aggression and non verbal communication...................... 59
6.4 Body Language................................................ 59
6.5 Balance of Power............................................. 60
6.6 About Lying.................................................. 62
6.7 Overcoming the ‘Age Difference’ problem...................... 63
6.8 Make yourself needed......................................... 64
6.9 Serious vs. Funny............................................ 65
6.10 Talking about yourself..................................... 65
6.11 Confront him about his bad behavior........................ 66
6.12 Showing anger to woman..................................... 66
6.13 Do not waste time figuring out............................. 67
6.14 Don’t encourage people to laugh at you..................... 67
6.15 About Dancing.............................................. 68
6.16 General Observations....................................... 68
6.17 Always answer the HB’s Question............................ 69
6.18 Coffee Table............................................... 69
6.19 Control of Relationship.................................... 70
6.20 About Feelings............................................. 71
6.21 Calibration................................................ 71
6.22 Adding Restrictions........................................ 72
6.23 On getting into LTR........................................ 72
6.24 Talking about Sex.......................................... 72
6.25 Dealing with Jealousy...................................... 73
6.26 How to handle when someone demands......................... 74
6.27 Girl asking you question................................... 74
6.28 Target Witness use of Physical Force....................... 75
6.29 If she likes you........................................... 75
6.30 Where are you from?........................................ 76
6.31 Lesson to learn............................................ 76
6.32 Get her to EV you.......................................... 77
6.33 Always answer a HB’s question.............................. 77
6.34 PUA Psychology............................................. 78
6.35 Double Dates............................................... 79
6.36 Being Led Instead of Leading............................... 80
6.37 Kiss Close................................................. 80
6.38 Miscellaneous Posts........................................ 81
6.39 Miscellaneous Points....................................... 82
1 Juggler’s Method Open with anything. It can be opinion or a situation or introducing yourself or even bleeding on people. In dynamic situation (store and moving people) a situational opener tends to work well. But in clubs or static situations I like to just introduce myself.
The key is not the opener. The opener does not matter much. The key is how you handle the response. The method is amplifying and using responses. You want to gain the skill to read and use a wider range of responses – that’s fun flexible and makes real connections.
Using routines as openers or anywhere does not give you much opportunity to use a wide range of responses. The very point of a routine is to elicit a specific 'good' response - that's boring and weak.
The method is not to worry so much about getting deep but to get wide rapport (a feeling like you can talk about anything). Again the key is including and amplifying a girl's response, no matter the response.
Talking about relationships are great. But keep in mind you must talk about your relationship experience or this comes across as you are just hitting on her.
Make an SOI. At all her high points (laughing, etc). This rewards her for trying and sarging you back.
You do not arrange a meeting. You either instant date or both of you admit you are really into each other. Then if you want to get together later it is a matter of just taking care of the details. The real business is in her agreeing that she is into you.
But really this is not a method. There are no stages or steps. There is no transition. It should not be thought of as a tool to achieve a result. It is a way. It is a place you should achieve and stay in and bring others into. The things like SOI at her high points or gaining the skill to use any of her reactions or any of the other parts of the way are not tools to manipulate a result. They are ways to help her fulfill her natural human want to be in that place.
Here is the Juggler way:
Think about what you would want an interaction with a girl to be like if there was no need to get sex. Let's say that sex was a given. You did not need to do anything tricky or run 'game' to score. How would you like that interaction to be? Myself I want it to be fun, exciting, relaxed, playful and sharing with each other willingly. Now think about how you can make that happen. Would you use tricks or be sneaky to get a girl to be that with you? No, that would be counter productive and/or unnecessary work. You would instead lead her by being fun, relaxed, sharing, or whatever you want the interaction to be like yourself and learn to allow and encourage her to be that as well.
It is just that most people have no idea how to allow and help someone achieve this place. Now the big mental step. Sexuality is not that big of a deal. Sure it has more important implications as far as chance of pregnancy, disease and emotional connotations. But from a 'who has the power' point of view it should be regarded the same way as having fun or any of the things you want an interaction to be - it should have nothing to do with power.
Style you are a great person. You have many of the skills for doing this method. You are an amazing and cool person. Much of what you do with women is so unnecessary. If you would just take the chance of directly being the great you that you are then you would not need so much of this extra stuff. I think you are afraid of your own greatness and maybe dealing with some of the reactions you would get that comes with letting that person out. Sometimes you seem so close to making this shift. Ah, but anyway you are a good friend so I have time to convince you.
What I am talking about is amazing. It can make a very intimate real connection very quickly - with super hot babes or anyone else for that matter. It has been shown to me to be very powerful in many, many contexts. It is based on universal truths. And as you know, I can not demonstrate the more intimate aspects to anyone's satisfaction because of the LTR I am in. But don't confuse the message with the messenger. I usually get out of interactions after hooking a girl because I know the danger and power of the way and to keep my promise to my lovely girlfriend. That is the weakness in my workshops but not in the way.
Sex and intimacy flow very easily out of this place. But I will have to think, maybe there is a way to demonstrate this.
Anyway, it amazes me how good of friends we are and yet I still haven't cleared all this up with you. I do actually think it is a tribute to how much fun we have together that we never get around to talking much 'shop'. It's either that or my inability to articulate it all. However, it should all be clear once I finish my book.
1.1 Juggler’s 90 – 10 Rule Keep in mind Juggler's 90-10 rule. That is, you must be prepared to provide 90 percent of the conversation at the beginning of an interaction with a woman until she is warmed up. If you go in and give 50%, expecting she will give 50% - like most conversations in the non- PU world, you will be disappointed. She will give only 10%. That adds up to 60%. Not enough and the conversation will stall and collapse.
On approach PUA should follow the 90-10 rule. That is you must be prepared to supply 90% of the conversation because she will only give you 10%. She is experiencing a dramatic state change and needs time to warm up to the conversation.
Most guys fail to realize this and work from the frame that they should supply 50% like a normal conversation. Of course, the girl only gives 10%. That adds up to 60% which is not the 100% which you need. The conversation then crumbles and the guy goes away thinking that the girl does not like them or they didn't use the right opening or whatever.
So what you are doing is pretty good for the beginning of the interaction. As you said, you "blast through". You just need to give her more opportunity to respond but be ready to jump in when she can not.
What you can frequently do is ask very open ended questions which she has never heard before. You want her to give you a great answer but you are not expecting her to. You are prepared either way. If she does give a great answer you can use the feelings off of it. If she answers with, "Um... I don't know." Then you can further clarify the question. This clarifying takes the form of you giving her an example from your life.
ie the answer you would give to the question.
Example:
You: What did you want to be when you were ten years old?
Her: What? I don't remember.
You: Well that is too bad because it is useful to remember. If we can get in touch with our passions we had at that time we can learn alot about what gets us excited today. For instance, when I was ten I knew exactly what I wanted to be.
Her: What did you want to be?
You: I wanted to be an astronaut. I even had this great way of training. I had a globe in my room and I would spin it and then quickly climb up onto my bunk bed and lean over like this and pretend I was floating around the Earth. (Pause) When my sister would come in the door she would be the space alien. (Zap zap) Now, once you warm her up she will begin to give more and more umph to the conversation. As her input grows you should give her the room to take more of the conversational workload.
1.2 Structure It is important to structure you encounters with girls. Within that structure plan the close.
1. Opening 1 Minute 2. Set a mood or entertain 10 Minutes 3. Qualify/EV 5 Minutes 4. Close This structure is not based on indicators of interest. If she is there after you set the mood that is your indicator – you close.
Sure if you are getting bad signals, eject or vanish or whatever you want to call it. But do not wait around for indicators which may never come. In fact, if a girl is very attracted to you, she may actively work at hiding those signs.
Presume, if you have any sort of game that you have attracted her. Then confirm this by closing.
Also, closing off an EV question is very effective. Make the values questions into hoops. You are qualifying them. Give her a few. The moment she passes one in flying fashion by giving you an answer that is poignant or to which you can really relate, look deep in her eyes and ask her if she wants to kiss you or ask her how you two can continue your conversation another time or whatever works for you. This will appear natural and smooth.
Do not waste time. Have faith in your abilities. A structure will give you even more confidence in yourself.
1.3 SOI, State Change & Extraction The great thing about SOIs is that they can put you in a frame where the girl and you are talking about the two of you having sex. She can not do this without imagining having sex with you.
A good SOI is really a sensually painted picture of the two of you doing pleasurable physical things to each other. Work on making the picture enticing.
Even if she turns the SOI down, she will still have to vision what you are talking about. That in and of itself is a good thing.
An SOI does show value. It says you can talk about sex candidly. Thus you must be a man who seduces many women. Ironically, showing an ability to candidly and smoothly SOI can make a girl more likely to chase you.
You can SOI without chasing her. The first SOI I usually use is very light and is half SOI and half hoop for her to jump through. For instance, "If I were to kiss you, on a scale from 1-10 how would I rate your kiss?”
SOIs can be very valuable in getting her to bed quickly. Figure out how to incorporate SOI into your game and you will notice a huge improvement in getting girls into bed fast.
Also, keep in mind an SOI should only be used after you have attracted the girl. So in a sense, she is SOI-ing you already.
You can also reverse SOI: "I am not the kind of guy who would just take a woman home the first night I met her and give her a night of pleasure and continuous orgasms. I'm not that easy. Well, at least you have to buy me a couple of drinks first.”
The best way to SOI is just get into talking about kissing and then turn up the heat from there.
Many girls will reject an SOI. They have to because they do not want to come across as sluts. The key here is to never give them the chance to do that and/or not take their rejection seriously. If you have any hint that she may reject you can just keep going right past the SOI: "I have a bottle of whipped cream in the fridge. You should come home with me and help me finish it off. Hey doesn't that girl over there look like Julia Roberts?”
Or you can do a take away: "Let's go back to my place and massage lotion into each other's skin." (This is where you watch her reaction.
If she is going to reject the SOI you do a take away.) "No wait. You are pretty tall. Forget it. I don't have enough for you.”
So you see, she has to picture the SOI in her mind, even though you pulled it away.
And if you give her the chance to reject an SOI, and she does, then just laugh.
This is good because it shows that you will not take her rejection of your advances seriously. This works because she knows she has to shoot down the SOI so she doesn't look like a slut. But she really wants to go home with you or may later after you make her really horny with more SOIs. She just needs to get her protest on the record but does not want you to actually stop under this 'technical rejection'. When you laugh, it is like a wink - shows that you understand her rejection has to be there for the record. Make sense?
Many guys seem to have trouble using SOIs because they feel incongruent with themselves. Using an SOI seems like introducing a huge state change. But when a guy is unwilling to do this the interaction is probably messed up already. He was probably not bold at the approach.
To really make an impact on a girl and get her wanting you deeply that night you have to demonstrate that you are a man who will boldly make state changes. This is real confidence. You need to show from beginning to end that you have what it takes to introduce state changes. And show that once you move her to a new state, you can keep her there and make it enjoyable. Thus she understands that you can get her into bed (a state change) resolutely and smoothly and it will be a pleasurable experience - you have established a good track record.
Guys get rapport with a girl and use good material and then they wonder why they can't close the deal and get the girl into bed. This is usually because they have been unwilling from the very start to make dramatic state changes. That is why you should never look for ways to ease into an approach with a girl. A gimmick or trick to get a girl talking with you may indeed start a long conversation but it will hurt you when trying to close the deal. You need to be bold from beginning to end and make many dramatic state changes throughout. You sort of have to be congruently incongruent. Then the SOI is in character. Then the SOI will be eventually accepted.
That brings me to another point. All it takes for a girl to accept an SOI is not to reject it. She is very unlikely to say, "Yes, let's go do that". That is one reason why SOIs should rarely be phrased as questions. If you do this you are pretty much negating any chance for her to accept the SOI. Instead make statements: "We should go back to my house and watch the cat do back flips while you give me a massage.”
That's it. If she says nothing then you are in. You should presume she is coming home with you.
If she doesn't accept an SOI you should return to chatting about whatever, then after a minute SOI again. Keep this pattern up and if you make your SOIs creatively seductive enough and make it clear you are want to give her pleasure then she will get real horny and eventually accept one.
One other thing, after she accepts the SOI and you take her home you may have to repeatedly SOI until you are actually having sex with her.
Also, you may find it helpful to agree when she tells you that she is not the type of girl to sleep with someone the night she met him. Keep nodding on this account. This is another 'on record rejection' which saves her face while you are seducing body 'off record'. Never fight her rejections of an SOI. Just consider them for book keeping sake only.
1.4 Using SOI The dynamic I setup is having the girl chase me. So it seems as if you could use SOI to the same effectiveness as I have. But who knows...
there are many subtleties.
IMHO At some point you are going to have to SOI. If you try to take her clothes off, that is an SOI. You may be trying to avoid all risk until the last moment. I'm sure you have had success with setting the mood, kinoing the girls and then building it up into sex. That can work. But your life will get much easier if you can figure out how to incorporate SOI into your game.
Remember that SOIs are delivered ONLY after she is demonstrating that she is interested. Or, if you were using my system, after you had forced IOIs.
The difference between an SOI and a close is that the SOI talks about what you are going to do with her. The close is simply the accounting details of making it happen - numbers or driving situations, etc. The close should be almost an after thought.
For a better understanding of an SOI let's look at the approach. You can call the approach a type of SOI. The mere fact that you are coming to talk to her is letting her know you are interested. That is why you can not sneak in. Guys continually come up with gimmicks to try to get in risk-free. Problem is, a hot girl has been hit on since she was thirteen. She can see this coming a mile away. She may or may not shoot such a guy down, she may even talk with him for awhile but she will not respond to him like she does a confident guy who comes in unafraid of a risk. Girls don't understand a lot about what really works on them but they are right when they say they want a bold confident man.
Demonstrate this to her. And ironically, if you come in arrogantly exposed to fire you will be less likely to be shot.
Well an SOI works similarly. You demonstrate you are unafraid to tell her straight out what you can do for her sexually. Most guys don't do that. They are timid. They try to sneak her into bed. They hope that rapport or kino will be enough. Well some times it is, but many times it is not - you have to put the picture in her mind.
You have to get over the avoidance of risk. Instead court risk. She needs to see that you can work around her anti-slut protocol. She WANTS to have sex with you.
You feel that her saying NO is a bad precedent. I understand where you are coming from. But remember that the mind can not hold a negative thought. If I tell you to not imagine a Volkswagon beetle, you can not help but imagine a funny bug looking car. As far as her imagination...
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